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0 # ella king 2014-09-21 20:07
there was a woman told me about u all so i am send u a email to let u all no that the word is get out there
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0 # timothy 2014-02-10 10:14
this reply comes alittle late in the game, and maybe it might even muddy the water even more...but, it maybe helpful to keep in mind that not all Israelis are Jews, but all Jews are Israelis', and to add to this, wasn't "Christians" a term first used to describe believers in Antioch which was outside of the Israeli border, i.e. gentile believers.
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0 # Rich Robinson 2014-02-11 09:49
"Israelis" are people who live in Israel, I think you mean "Israelites." The distinction today is not meaningful between Israelites and Jews, so I'm not sure what your point is.
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0 # David N. Freeman 2014-01-05 09:17
Matt,
It has been a while since I made this posting but thanks for your answer.

Your answer really made no sense. Try again and maybe I will understand what you are trying to say.

DF
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+2 # Matt Sieger 2014-01-05 21:57
Mr. Freeman,
Thanks for your reply. It all comes down to who Jesus is. We believe the Hebrew Scriptures, like Isaiah 53 and Psalm 22, paint a portrait of the Messiah and that Jesus fits that description precisely. So, just as the earliest followers of Jesus were all Jews and remained Jews, we who follow Jesus now remain Jews. In fact, most of us will tell you that coming to know Jesus made us feel even more Jewish. It's hard to describe, but if you come to understand who Jesus is, you will know what I'm trying to say. The best way is to start reading the Gospels, which are the first four books in the New Testament.
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-4 # David Freeman 2013-08-11 10:30
Jews for Jesus is just another name for Christian missionary work. You get the weak and jews that do not understand their own religion.
Just call your self Christians. At least be honest with your own name.
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+2 # Matt Sieger 2013-08-12 13:39
We are Jews in that we are physically descended from Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. At the same time we are also Christians—those who believe in and follow Jesus, the Jewish Messiah. One classification does not cancel out the other.
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+1 # Dan 2014-01-04 17:31
Of course it doesn't cancel out the other, because you are referring to two different things. You may be Jews racially and ethnically. But religiously you are practicing Christianity.
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-1 # Matt Sieger 2014-01-05 21:59
Dan,
Please see my response above to Mr. Freeman. I think that covers your question as well. If not, I'd be happy to discuss it with you further. Thanks.
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+1 # Dan 2014-01-06 05:44
Hi Matt, I think the confusion comes from the complexity of the semantics of the word "Jewish". The identification known as Judaism is one that is unlike all other classifications. Most classifications are part of a grouping, such as race or religion. Christianity or Islam are religions. Caucasian or African are race. One can be African, but there is no African religion. One can be Muslim, but be racially Caucasian. Judaism has always been multifaceted in that it is both a race, ethnicity and religion. However, each one means something very different. To be racially Jewish one need not practice or believe in anything that is religiously Jewish at all. In fact, there are hundreds and thousands of Jews who are completely secular and believe in nothing. There are Jews who consider themselves as Buddhists. But when we say that they are Jews, it means that they are racially Jewish, as in your statement that you descend from Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. (cont'd in next comment)
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+1 # Dan 2014-01-06 05:46
One of those beliefs is that Jesus was never the Messiah or God. Historically, the followers of Jesus were distanced from the rest of the Judaism because of their beliefs. So one cannot be religiously Jewish, and still believe in Jesus. The reasons why this is obviously need to be discussed in more depth. So it is true you remain Jewish, in the racial sense, but religiously, you are not practicing the religion of Judaism, but instead Christianity. To address the comment that believing in Jesus makes you "feel more Jewish" is completely subjective. There is nowhere in Judaism that says that what makes you Jewish is based on what makes you feel more so. There are objective criterion that make this distinction. If there are objective reasons that this feeling is based on, so then you may need to clarify.
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0 # Dan 2014-01-06 05:46
In regards to the Messianic prophecies you quoted, there needs to be a greater discussion about the nature of identifying what a Messianic prophecy is in the Bible. Not everyone agrees in identifying these passages as Messianic prophecies. And even if they were, there is no reason necessarily to point them to being Jesus. Obviously greater discussion is necessary. If you'd be interested I would be interested in discussing this point further.
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-1 # Stephen 2015-03-18 08:04
Being a Christian, at least in my denomination, is a heart issue; the holy spirit resides in my heart, not in my head. So far all I see here is intellectual distractions; FACT; Jesus was, and still is, Jewish. Christians can originate from a Jewish background, a Gentile Background, even a Muslim background, or a myriad of other backgrounds today. What I am sensing here is ownership of Jesus, i.e., Jesus was Jewish, therefore Jews have a foot up in being believers. Jesus, Paul and others made it clear that God is NO respecter of persons, and that ANYBODY who confesses the name of Jesus WILL be saved by faith, the bridge that leads to the Grace of God.
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+2 # Matt Sieger 2015-03-18 08:14
Stephen,
We certainly agree with you that God is no respecter of persons and that all who call on Jesus will be saved by faith. But just as there have always been missionary organizations whose focus is on particular people groups, our focus is on making the Messiahship of Yeshua (Jesus) an unavoidable issue to our Jewish people worldwide. Rest assured that we end up sharing the gospel with many, many Gentiles as well!
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